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It seems I am late in finding this out as the article is dated January 13th, but the Red Pill/Game/manosphere (whatever you want to call it) knowledge is spreading. Roosh has been highlighted at Taki’s Magazine.
EDIT: It’s funny, I don’t read Roosh’s site all that often, but I just noticed that whenever I do, I get ad’s at other sites for Russian/European women dating websites.
EDIT II: Commenters have ben stating other places where they have seen Game go mainstream. I’d love to know what others have seen. Also, Francis Begbie has a good post up at The Soul is Not a Smithy about what this is likely to look like in mainstream television and I think he’s right. However, in the not-so-mainstream it will continue to prevail. Women and men want masculinity whether they know it or not.
I read that when it first came up on delusion damages aggregater.
I knew redpill/game/sphere wisdom was starting to be recognized when i saw this episode of Criminal Minds..
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1256106/
I first noticed it on the show The League. I’m relatively sure the writers read Roissy.
I just checked out Delusion Damage’s site and that’s a really good idea. I hadn’t seen it yet.
My pal, Nick Savoy, has a book out now for women called Its Your Move. He’ll be on the Today show on February 5th to promote its launch.
It's Your Move: How to Play the Game and Win the Man You Want
There are two episodes of the Big Bang Theory that address game. One of the characters, Howard, talks about negging, peacocking and rapport lol. Another episode features talk of being the Alpha male and Beta and whatnot, I’m seeing some of the terminology seep through a bit as well with day to day stuff.
17 Again has a comical depiction of a “player” peacocking. One of those Zac Efron movies that with anyone else playing his part would have been complete crap. The kid can act.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0974661/
Francis Begbie,
What kind of things are you noticing day to day?
BTW, I like your site. I can actually hear the Irish accent while reading it, which is saying something. Irish is one of my favorite accents and I love your country. It’s stunningly beautiful.
Kate,
That book looks pretty good. Will you let me know how the interview goes? I’m curious about how it will go over.
In that Zach Efron movie, do they mention peacocking or just show a guy doing it?
Stingray,
It is!!! He let me read it as he wrote it and he humored my amateur editing. Basically, I was a cheerleader and a test audience. I’m curious too, although I know Neil Strauss went on The View when The Game came out. This is different though because its marketed to women. I hope to be able to see it, myself, but, naturally, I’ll be at work. I’m so hopped up about it, I’d honestly consider taking a personal day. LOL
In the movie, the boy’s guardian explains what it is but demonstrates it poorly.
Glad you found the Delusion Damage aggregator. It’s indispensable. You should send him a quick note, I’m sure he’d be glad to add you to the stream. He seems to have made a hobby out of encouraging blogs, if you note his sidebar.
OT: Just came across a pin-up of a babe sudsing her Corvette Stingray and what did I think of? I firmly believe this picture would be a welcome replacement for your masthead or at least your profile pic, if not exactly congruent with your theme. As I am (marginally) a gentleman I will not post the full pin-up but rather direct you to the (marginally) safe-for-work version here.
(Psst, drag & drop into Google Image if you want to unlock the next level.)
Matt
Matt,
You don’t like my sammich?
And . . . Egads man! Some of the links I was taken to were . . . . . well, not appropriate for work and definitely not pictures of a Stingray.
The show Girls has lots of red pill. Sheldon spanks his girlfriend to her liking in a Big Bang episode. There are 50 shades spin off books that apparently go even further. Over at thegoodmanginaproject I`ve noticed clear shifts in the male commentators and in the willingness of at least a few of the female ones to open to their views.
Thank you for the compliment. It is a stunningly beautiful country, but it is being westernized at an exponential rate, which makes me sad.
I’ll give a few examples of seeping through:
Hearing a guy in a nightclub use words like “spinning plates, female imperative, red pill blue pill”, manosphere terminology basically. The Game is a popular book amongst a good few people I know. But most people think it’s garbage. It’s not a great book imo, a narcissistic piece of crap with the odd good insight.
But there are other things as well. Like going to the toilet and finding someone had scratched “Chateau Heartiste” into the wall. The fact that a lot of men in comments sections for various articles are speaking out against feminism.
Finally, in a lot of cases, I’ve simply been able to say what I believe to other people. If that person is Eastern European (man or women, ESPECIALLY Russian lassies) /good with women in general/risen in a more stable family it seems, they tend to turn to me and say, “yeah, I think so as well” which is weird cause you’d think that a lot of people just go for the misogynist prick card. In reality, a lot of people think “somethings wrong, and I’m not quite sure what”, its bubbling underneath and you just need to pry it out of them. I’ve send links to pre 2009 Roissy/Rollo to about 5 people whom I trust, and while it ain’t much, tis a start.
The only thing is, like I said in the old game post there, this stuff is going to be attacked/made fun of (Big Bang Theory) ad nauseum in the next while. So, we’ll see what happens.
Stingray: I was very careful to show only her leg. I disclaim all connection to what sewage you find by messing with Google Image search.
Makes me think how sad it is we fell out of love with cars. It was a youthful fling, and we are old and bitter now. (P.J. O’Rourke remarked on this tragedy.) What pieces of absolute sushi-shit our plastic computers on wheels are in comparison to the dead sexy curves of the Stingray. I would buff that baby with a diaper. Mrow.
Matt
No, Francis Begbe, they are not great resources (“manosphere terminology,” Mystery Moskowitz, Neil Strauss’s The Game). They are charlatans and door-to-door salesmen with pamphlets and screeds and clunky how-to manuals.
They are the first prospectors who chipped away and found a vein of substantial gold, and have no idea how to extract it properly. They require refinement. Game 2.0. No more moaning about the circumstance. Roll up your sleeves and get to changing it.
“Better to light a candle than curse the darkness.”
Or,
Matt
Alternatively, beta + alpha + 1961 Ferrari 250 GT California:
The pick-up stuff seems to have penetrated to a degree. Some of the more ideological stuff though is going to be tougher to surface. How mainstream is Taki? Do you know their readership?
Stingray – “Commenters have ben stating other places where they have seen Game go mainstream.”
I don’t think it’s just Game – or probably more accurately, the manosphere – going mainstream. I think it’s also the mainstream coming to Game. A large number of the manosphere sites I’ve seen only just started within the last 6 months, peaking around midsummer / early fall. Their archives only go back as far as about July or August 2012. If Game won’t come to men, men will go to Game.
Francis Begbie – “There are two episodes of the Big Bang Theory that address game.”
More than that. I saw the episode with Howard that you mentioned, but the last season or so, there have been quite a bit more. I’ve said for a while now that I think at least one of the writers is reading manosphere and Game sites – probably to ridicule them, but hey, whatever. It’s exposure. One recent episode even had a thinly-veiled Team Woman* reference along with a comment right after that about alpha males (albeit the geek version thereof – an argument over a parking space led to the theft of a prized Iron Man helmet. For these guys, that’s like fighting in the street with broken bottles).
Stingray again – “I don’t read Roosh’s site all that often, but I just noticed that whenever I do, I get ad’s at other sites for Russian/European women dating websites.”
It’s probably Google ads or cookies or something. Or both. I’ve read The Woman and the Dragon and Dalrock at work on lunch, and afterward that computer gets ads for Christian Singles, for example.
*Hi, CL and 7man.
Keanu,
Just based on my own speculation, Taki’s Magazine is likely where National Review was 7-8 years ago. Now that may be wishful thinking on my part and it may be more like 15 years ago. What I suspect is that when National Review lost a lot of their readership after John Derbyshire was fired a couple of years ago, they followed him over to Taki’s. Also, as National Review continues to get more moderate, those who don’t like the trend continue to go to Taki’s.
If we think of NBC or even Fox news as being mainstream, it’s not even close. However, it is closer to main stream than most alternate views, in my opinion.
Nightsky,
Yeah, I figured it was cookies as well. It’s always a bit weird to see Russian brides coming up on my computer and it made me smile.
I remembered another Big Bang red pill reference. Sheldon wanted to help Leonard by appearing like he was beta to him thus making him alpha.
See also Leverage, which pretty overtly discusses a variety of red-pill topics with the thinnest veil of naughtiness for plausible deniability. The “how to behave” advice given between characters is honestly instructive.
Matt,
The Ferrari is nice. Very nice, in fact. But I will never, ever part will my love affair with American Heavy Metal. It makes me drool.
I’ll bring the diapers. That Stingray is beautiful.
John Hawkins runs Right Wing News and contributes to Townhall and PJ Media a lot. I found Heartiste last summer through a link on RWN. His newest piece at PJ Media is just loaded with Red Pill/Game/Whatever.
There’s a pic at the beginning of the article that gives a subtle nod to Game. Look carefully or you might miss it, it’s not something that really grabs the eye.
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/01/23/5-reasons-men-cheat/
Here’s the footage, Stingray. I think they were so charmed they could barely do the interview. LOL
“I knew redpill/game/sphere wisdom was starting to be recognized when i saw this episode of Criminal Minds..
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1256106/”
I’ve seen it and it’s all crap, clearly designed to play into the prejudices of women and white knights about Game.
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